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The coming of the Antichrist is through the activity and working of Satan, and will be attended by great power and with all sorts of miracles and signs and delusive marvels — lying wonders — and by unlimited seduction to evil and with all wicked deception for those who are going to perish because they did not welcome the Truth but refused to love it that they might be saved. Therefore, God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false… (2 Thessalonians, 2:9-11; Amplified, Zondervan)

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In Matthew 24, when Jesus was asked, what will be the sign of the end — the completion, the consummation — of the age? He answered:

Be careful that no one misleads you — deceiving you and leading you into error… And many false prophets will rise up and deceive and lead many into error… for false Christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect… (Matthew 24:4,11,24; Amplified, Zondervan)

So, we have some ancient traditions about this time of the “End”, (or so we suppose it to be due to our many current observations about the state of the world), that support the idea of many, many channeled teachings and messages being “poured out” on the Earth in that given time. We note, in the first place, that it is described as a “pouring out of God’s Spirit on all flesh” so that many are inspired to prophesy or have dreams and visions.

Okay, that’s all fine and good. But then we are told that a lot of this will be “unlimited seduction to evil and with all wicked deception” brought through by false prophets and wonder workers. Further, it is clearly stated that this influence is as a result of that very same Spirit of God when it is stated: “God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false…” The final piece of the puzzle is “false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect…”

It’s pretty clear, I think, that the Elect, whoever and whatever they are, must be considered to be the prime targets of this activity, so we have to consider that it is not going to be an easy task to sort the wheat from the chaff! We can expect the deceptions and delusions to be very subtle and clever.

Again, I would like to call your attention to the remark: “God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion…”

Don’t you think that this is an astounding statement? I do. It certainly makes it understandable why so many sources can come across as teachers of “love and light” when, in fact, they are purveyors of error and “strong delusion”. In effect, we are being told that these are tests!

And how do you pass a test? A really difficult one? At the very least, you have to have some knowledge of the subject. In most cases, it requires a great deal of study and effort.

The point is: there is an ancient tradition that tells us that deception is going to be the keynote of the times. Those who have not done their homework, and who are not aware of this, look upon the expanding spiritual concerns of the New Age movement as a sign that the world is going to be transformed by love and light and the aliens are here to help us, and we should all embrace every new avatar that comes down the pike showing us signs and wonders or telling us that we are special and chosen, as our savior and way-shower to the Elysian Fields of sanctity and bliss.

According to the Koran, God is the “Best of deceivers”. In Chapter 231 of Ibn al-’Arabi’s Futuhat, (“Unveiling”), which is entitled “On Deception”, there is a long description of the various forms that God’s deception may take. It is said that God’s deceptions appear as the wiles of Satan and the lower soul which often consist of:

The continuation of favors in spite [of the servant’s] opposition [to God’s command]. [God allows the “state” to continue] in spite of the servant’s discourtesy in the manifestation of miraculous signs without divine command and without being punished.

In our own view, God’s deceiving “the servant” is that He should provide him knowledge which demands practice, and then deprive him of the practice; or that God should provide him with practice, and then deprive him of sincerity in the practice. When you see this in yourself or recognize it in someone else, know that he who has such an attribute is the object of deception.2

In this chapter, Ibn al-‘Arabi discusses various manifestations of deception, especially as it affects the general spiritual seeker, the “elect” and the “elect of the elect”. These last can be the ones who are tempted by the desire to convince others by manifesting “signs”.

To attempt to sidestep the natural laws of the world in which we have our being is considered to be a very great discourtesy toward God because it suggests a judgment on the creation or a breaking of the natural laws without a direct command from God. It seems that, as a test, God bestows upon some people the “power to break the laws of nature,” and then places within such a person an urge to manifest these signs in such a way that he is unaware that this is a deception. Hence, he is inspired in his soul to manifest the signs as a kindness to “attract the creatures to God.” Such a person does not understand that, by so doing, he is depriving the witnesses of “acting upon insight”.

In other words, such a person has deprived his devotees of Free Will.

The dangers come, of course, when a person deliberately seeks to channel higher beings or the higher self before being well educated in the history and forms and results of such activities. Such practices become, in effect, a “piercing of the veil”, or as Ibn al-’Arabi calls it, “unveiling”.

The experience of unveiling opens up an infinite expanse of previously unseen realities to the heart of the spiritual seeker. The realm into which the adept first enters is, after all, the World of Imagination, whose byways never end. It is the domain of the Satans and other deceiving forces. The traveler needs to keep a clear head during his journeys and not be misled by the swirling forces, which lie just beyond the horizons of stability and balance.

Nowadays most people interested in the spirituality of the East desire the “experience,” though they may call what they are after “intimate communion with God.” Those familiar with the standards and norms of spiritual experience set down by disciplined paths are usually appalled at the way Westerners seize upon any apparition from the domain outside of normal consciousness as a manifestation of the “spiritual”. In fact there are innumerable realms in the unseen world, some of them far more dangerous than the worst jungles of the visible world. No person familiar with the teachings of Sufism would dare lay himself open to such forces…3

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This remark of Ra’s undoubtedly referred to the restrictions placed on the conduit as a result of Carla’s fears and biases, and the very judgments expressed in the above comments. I hardly think that such an entity as Ra claimed to be would be confined to, or experience reality as a “narrow vibration or wave length.” It would, therefore, stand to reason that the “narrow band” was at the receiving end. The band of communication might very well have been broadened at the receiving end if such judgments and choices had not been made as those we have examined.

The Cassiopaeans commented on this broadening of the channel on one occasion. In one of the earliest sessions, we were told about the experiments being performed on children by “aliens”, and this was truly a horrible thing to be discussing. I later asked why such a thing was being told to us. Like Carla, I was of the opinion that a good source would only say nice things. I was horrified and my first reaction was to terminate the contact immediately. But I didn’t, and later I came back to ask about this initial shocking material.

October 20, 1994

Q: (L) We got some information from an early session which said some awful things about bits of children’s organs being removed, etc. What was the source of that information? Did that come from you guys?

A: Yes. Sorry for shock but necessary for broadening channel.

On the subject of rituals, the Cassiopaeans are very clear that, for the most part, they, too, are restrictive.

July 16, 1994

Q: (L) Do any of the rituals we perform provide protection against further abduction?

A: Maybe. Some crystals with energy fields. Don’t need protection if you have knowledge.

Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?

A: It is deep in the subconscious

Q: (L) When did we get it?

A: Before birth.

Q: (L) Is there anything else we can do for protection?

A: Learn, meditate, read. Need to awaken.

The following was one of their earliest explications of “Knowledge Protects”.

October 22, 1994

Q: (L) Are there any rituals that can be performed to provide protection for one against intrusion by the Lizzies.

A: Rituals are self-defeating.

Q: (L) Are there any technological means we can use?

A: The only defense needed is knowledge. Knowledge defends you against every possible form of harm in existence. The more knowledge you have, the less fear you have, the less pain you have, the less stress you feel, the less anguish you feel, and the less danger you experience of any form or sort.

Think of this very carefully now for this is very important: Where is there any limitation in the concept behind the word “knowledge”? Being that there is no limitation, what is the value of that word? Infinite.

you from all limitation? Use your sixth sense to conceive of how the word, the term, the meaning of knowledge can provide with all that you could possibly ever need. If you think carefully you will begin to see glimpses of how this is true in its greatest possible form.

Q: (L) Does this include knowledge learned from books?

A: This includes all possible meanings of the concept of the word.

Can you think of how it would be that simply with one term, this one word could carry so much meaning?

We sense that you are not completely aware. You can have glimpses of illumination and illumination comes from knowledge

If you strive perpetually to gain and gather knowledge, you provide yourself with protection from every possible negative occurrence that could ever happen.

Do you know why this is?

The more knowledge you have, the more awareness you have as to how to protect yourself. Eventually this awareness becomes so powerful and so all encompassing that you do not even have to perform tasks, or rituals if you prefer, to protect yourself. The protection simply comes naturally with the awareness.

Q: (L) Does knowledge have a substance or an existence apart from its possession or its acceptance?

A: Knowledge has all substance. It goes to the core of all existence.

Q: (L) So acquiring knowledge includes adding substance to one’s being?

A: Indeed. It includes adding everything to one’s being that is desirable. And also, when you keep invoking the light, as you do, truly understand that the light is knowledge. That is the knowledge, which is at the core of all existence. And being at the core of all existence it provides protection from every form of negativity in existence. Light is everything and everything is knowledge and knowledge is everything. You are doing extremely well in acquiring of knowledge. Now all you need is the faith and realization that acquiring of knowledge is all you need.

Q: (L) I just want to be sure that the source that I am acquiring the knowledge from is not a deceptive source.

A: If you simply have faith, no knowledge that you could possibly acquire could possibly be false because there is no such thing. Anyone or anything that tries to give you false knowledge, false information, will fail. The very material substance that the knowledge takes on, since it is at the root of all existence, will protect you from absorption of false information that is not knowledge.

There is no need to fear the absorption of false information when you are simply openly seeking to acquire knowledge. And knowledge forms the protection — all the protection you could ever need.

Q: (L) There are an awful lot of people who are being open and trusting and having faith that are getting zapped and knocked on their rears.

A: No. That is simply your perception. What you are failing to perceive is that these people are not really gathering knowledge. These people are stuck at some point in their pathway to progress and they are undergoing a hidden manifestation of what is referred to in your terms as obsession. Obsession is not knowledge; obsession is stagnation. So, when one becomes obsessed, one actually closes off the absorption and the growth and the progress of soul development, which comes with the gaining of true knowledge. For when one becomes obsessed one deteriorates the protection therefore one is open to problems, to tragedies, to all sorts of difficulties. Therefore one experiences same.

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July 23, 1995

Q: (L) Why have I been under such severe physical, material, and emotional attack in the past six months? Frank thinks that I am under such attack because I work and move too fast in the gathering of information and attempts at sharing it; that I charge ahead and do things, thereby exposing myself to retaliatory attacks.

A: That has the potential for being partially correct in the sense that you disseminate information, perhaps less carefully than you should. The gathering of information holds no potential for attack from any particular realm. However, dissemination DOES, because those whom become aware, become empowered. And, in any struggle between opposing forces, there is always danger in allowing anyone to become empowered without realization of the ramifications.

Q: (L) So, I can continue to seek information, as long as I keep it to myself?

A: You have free will to do that which you please. But, when you are framing it in terms of the question: where is the danger, this presupposes that you are concerned about dangers to yourself. And, if this be the case, we will be happy to give advice where and when needed.

Q: (L) Well, right now it is needed. I am almost completely debilitated physically and materially, which creates a severe barrier to focus and concentration, and also my ability to assist other people.

A: Well then, perhaps it is true that you should be careful as to how you disseminate the information and how you disseminate knowledge gained, and where, and when. This is not to say that you must stop, but rather to think carefully before you do it, as to what the ramifications will be. And then your instincts will lead you in the proper direction. The dangers are always that when one proceeds too quickly, the instincts may be overrun and become confused with other thought pattern energies, and thereby opening one up to attack and other unpleasant possibilities.

Q: (L) Well, if I promise not to tell, make a vow, can’t we just stop all this other?

A: It is not necessary to stop, it is just to be careful as to how one does it. The flow of information is never a harmful thing. As we have previously described, the Service to Self involves the constriction and restriction of energies, and the focusing within. The Service to Others orientation involves an outward flow of energies, the focus being from within to without. Therefore, the passage of information, or dissemination is very helpful and is of Service to Others orientation. But, one must also be aware of the dangers involved. One must not lose control of the flow and the possibilities that can result. This is where you need to be more careful. You need to regulate.

And, attack can come from any number of sources for any number of reasons. It is not always for the same reason. And, of course, there is the short wave and long wave cycle. The short wave cycle is one which closes rather quickly. The long wave cycle is one that closes more slowly, therefore take a longer amount of time, as you perceive it, to close. Therefore it also involves a more complicated issue. This is just one example as to how attack can be the result of what we were just describing.

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Q: (L) The point is that a constant state of worry, another crisis every day, the perpetual worry, eventually wears a person down to the point where one can no longer focus on any other issues.

A: Perhaps one can solve the crises by focusing on other issues? You see, when you constrict the flow, you constrict the channel. And when you constrict the channel, you close down possibilities. And, you make it difficult, if not impossible for you to see that which is there. In other words, the obvious becomes oblivious because of constriction of the flow.

This is why we have recommended against all rituals, because ritual restricts the flow, thereby restricting the possibilities. And, what you are describing is a situation of “dire straits,” as you call it — and pressures of great magnitude — which is restricting you.

But actually, it is your concentration on same that is restricting, not the situation itself. And we realize that it is difficult for you to focus your attentions, or, more importantly to open up the flow of the channel. But, it is certainly not impossible. Especially for an individual as strong as yourself. It is what you choose to do, not what you MUST do. It is what you CHOOSE to do.

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August 12, 1995

Q: (L) We would like to know a bit more on the subject of rituals, which you have warned us are restricting on many levels. Why is this?

A: If one believes in one’s activities sincerely, to the greatest extent, they certainly will produce SOME benefit, at SOME level. But, merely following patterns for the sake of following patterns does not produce sincerity and faith necessary for ultimate benefits to result.

So, therefore, as always, one must search from within, rather than from without, to answer that question. Do you understand?

To give you an example, to be certain, you meet this all the time. If you read material in the pages of a book that advises one form of ritual or another, and you follow that form of ritual because you have read words printed on the pages, does that really give you the true sense of satisfaction and accomplishment within yourself to the greatest extent possible?

Whereas, if you, yourself, were to develop an activity, which one or another could interpret or define as a ritual, but it comes from within you, it feels RIGHT to you, and you have a sincere and complete faith in it, whatever it may be, does that feel right to you?

Q: (L) Yes.

A: Have we answered the question, then?

Q: (L) Yes, thank you.

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July 24, 1999

Q: (L) I have been having a dialogue with a fellow on the net in the last week or so who is very well versed in the Ra Material. He sent me a large chunk of Volume 5 of the Ra books, which was material that had not been released earlier.

It seems that during the times that Don Elkins was asking some questions about different conspiracies and the nature of the fourth density STS manipulations and some other rather grim subjects, there was some sort of judgment made by this group, or members of this group, that such subjects were not appropriate lines of questioning for an STO channel. They were, apparently, considered to be a “focusing on negative aspects”, therefore they were not of “love and light”. Such questions and directions of questions were, therefore, discouraged or agreed by this group to be not desirable to pursue. Don Elkins did, however, commit suicide. Can you tell us why?

A: Suicide is a chosen pathway for the purpose of close realization of shutting off the noise.

Q: (L) I would like to understand. Here, these folks had this marvelous contact with Ra.

A: Contact with Ra does not preclude the possibility of attack.

Q: (L) Why did Ra not convey to him the information necessary to understand that he was under attack, and what kind of attack it was, and how to deal with it?

A: The questions were not asked.

Q: (L) Why were the questions not asked that would have protected him?

A: “Love and Light” focus.

Q: (L) So, because they were so focused on the love and light aspects…

A: There is no positivity without negativity. There is always negativity present, whether acknowledged or not.

Q: (L) So, you are saying that if it is not acknowledged, placed on the table, so to speak, that it sort of “bites you” no matter what? That, in some way it will manifest, and if a person goes to an extreme in terms of love and light, the negativity will come in the back door?

A: Close.

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I understood this instinctively when I was studying the Ra Material. Yes, I had many of the same biases as Carla in the beginning, but I was also aware of something else — something that was crucial to my understanding and which had resulted from my work in spirit release and exorcism — and that was a simple principle which amounts to this: putting attention on negative forces does not make them stronger if the intent is to diminish them. And one can only learn to diminish darkness by learning exactly what is of darkness. And that amounts to, as we have already discussed, learning to identify our reality through its symbols, and learning to give each thing its due.

In another respect, a focus on love and light can, in some cases, reflect an inner fear of the darkness. And that fear will attract unpleasant experiences and events into one’s life. Only knowledge can dispel that fear.

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But, getting back to the Ra Material, Carla made the remark, “Concentrating on conspiracy theories and their participants tends to reinforce the illusion of separation and ignores the love that binds all things as One Being.”

I agree that one should not concentrate on “conspiracy theories”. The Cassiopaeans have said as much. But the fact is, they are a very real part of our world, and conspiracy is part and parcel of the STS pathway, and the reality in which we live. It is also apparent that we are here to learn the lessons of this reality as completely as possible in order to graduate. To consider this aspect of our world as being “outside” or “not a part” of God, is doing the very thing Carla was trying to avoid: in effect, by not learning about such things, she was reinforcing the illusion of separation and ignoring the love that binds all things as One Being — including conspiracies and their participants.

To this day, Carla focuses in that direction, and suffers incredibly from many physical ailments and, seemingly, other mental/emotional torments. She has stated in her writings that these sufferings are the price she must pay in her efforts to hold her focus on love and light. This is very commendable, but misses the point, I think. As we have talked about already, it is not that a person is supposed to manifest negativity in their lives in a deliberate way. There is always choice. That is the key. But it is in judging the negativity to be an error or a mistake or something to be “fixed” in others or the self that one goes astray. And when you exert effort to “create love and light via focus on same,” it becomes a tacit admission that there is some lack of it in your reality.

Folks have a lot of problems in distinguishing between “judgment” and “assessment and personal choice”. I can look at and assess any number of things as negative and choose to act otherwise, or, in other words, learn to give negativity its due by non-participation. But, I don’t have to think that I must impose my choice on anyone else, nor do I have to think that the negativity needs to be fixed or done away with. It is the choice of some beings to follow that path. They have the right to choose it just as I have the right to choose what I choose. And, the only way I can choose is to know the difference! And I cannot know the difference if I do not have the deepest knowledge possible about every aspect of the reality in which I live.

And that is not to say that we can ever fully know the truth. But it is our job to Love the Creator, and we cannot love the Creator/Self without knowing Creator/Self. When we deny fully half of Creation, we are choosing to love only our image of what the Creator should be, according to our judgment. And by blocking, or ignoring information that would instruct us about the many Faces of God, we are actually taking action against God. We are judging and carrying out a sentence of exclusion. And that which we exclude from acknowledgement comes back to us over and over again in our lessons in life.

Now, having talked about the Ra Material source in some detail, I want to suggest that those who have not read it try to get a copy because it is a rare and amazing thing what this group did, in spite of the pit they fell into and the tragedy that resulted. Don paid a very high price for the purity of the material and it deserves first place in the higher-level transmissions.

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August 11, 1996

Q: (L) Okay, since the Ra Material is considered to be a kind of primer to the Cassiopaean material, could you give us a percentage on the accuracy of this material?

A: 63.

Q: (L) 63%, well, that’s pretty good, considering… (T) A lot of it is very good stuff… (L) Can you talk to us a little bit about the concept of Wanderers? In the Ra teaching about Wanderers, it is said that Wanderers are individuals who feel alienated in the world system…

A: Yes but they can partially adapt.

Q: (L) Okay, do they also sometimes have physical…?

A: Revulsion to physicality.

Q: (L) Okay, is that always a clue?

A: Yes.

Q: (J) Revulsion to physicality, does that refer to a dislike of the fact that in third density all is physical, and it’s fixed, as opposed to upper densities, where there are variables?

A: 3rd density is not “all” physical.

Q: (L) I think that what they’re getting at is like a fine division between somebody who focuses on physical sensation as opposed to spiritual or mental or emotional sensation as being the point of reference.

A: Yes. 3rd density natives tend to concentrate and, to an extent, revel, in the physical.

Q: (J) I think the point that I was trying to make was, having to stay in third density, would they miss the variability of physicality? (L) Well, Wanderers, remember, are sixth density beings.

A: The lack.

Q: (T) The lack of physicality?

A: Yes. Is missed. Not so much “miss,” as much as difficulty of adjustment.

Q: (T) If you were used to the freedom of non-physicality, and then became limited by being physical, you’d miss the non-physical state.

This is another area where there are some misunderstandings in the spiritual life. Many seekers believe that their inability to function in the real world is like a badge of merit — a proof of their great spirituality. Physical ailments, loss of function, inability to manage ordinary daily affairs, and so on and on are all excused because the person is so “spiritual” that they cannot be expected to be bothered with such things.

Well, that’s all fine and good but wouldn’t you think that a person who is supposed to have graduated to higher spiritual realms did so because they mastered the lower ones? And, if that is the case, what is so hard about remembering those lessons and activating them at a higher level of competence this time around? If you have graduated to sixth grade, surely you can ace all the tests of third grade?

In Amazing Grace, which chronicles my path toward the C’s, I have written about my specific work as a hypnotherapist and the things I learned as an exorcist that gave me insight into the ins and outs of the spiritual realms. I’m not going to go into that here except to say that I knew what I was dealing with when we began the channeling experiment.

For those who have asked the questions about my spiritual hygiene, I can assure you that I used some pretty sophisticated techniques to maintain a state of psychic cleanliness at the inception of the project, throughout the past 15 years or so, and at present. I constantly monitor the flavor, feel and “fruits” of the contact — making adjustments or shifts to accommodate. And, most of all, we look on it as “play”. We don’t now, nor did we ever, take it as true believer material. It sure is interesting because of the many areas that have independent corroboration, but some of it is, by its very nature, unverifiable.

There are many things we have learned, and not just from being informed via hard work, but also by having a suggestion given to us, which we then observed, experimented with, and developed more fully on our own. This is one of the keys to the uniqueness of the Cassiopaeans; they don’t just hand it out. As I have noted again and again, they give clues, but not roadmaps. Their position is that if we don’t do the work to gather the detailed knowledge, it is useless; like candy: empty calories. Clearly, this approach is designed to make the practice of channeling ultimately unnecessary and obsolete. We will, eventually, “become” them. Repeatedly they tell us that leading us by the hand is detrimental; they have laid the groundwork, given us the boost because we asked (and did so repeatedly, consistently, and with dedication for over two years before the contact initiated), but that the real purpose is to get us to learn to walk on our own.

Most channeled sources want folks to channel just so they can channel more and more and on and on. The Cassiopaeans have actually been becoming less and less communicative, preferring to tell us “you have the tools, we have taught you, now figure it out yourself!”

A lot of people don’t like that. They want to have everything handed to them. They don’t want to think or work or do anything except just lie down and have everything poured into their heads. Then, they just “believe” and get eaten alive (which generally manifests as all sorts of physical, emotional, mental and relationship type problems).

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December 31, 1997

Q: (A) Now, at some point you said when we asked about the Ra Material, you gave the number that it was 63 per cent accurate. Do you confirm this now?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Now, I want to know exactly how you got this number 63, how you computed it, why is it 63 and not 62 or 64?

A: The divination process always breaks down to mathematical processes, as this is the only true universal language.

Q: (A) But, I want to know what mathematical process you were using to get this number 63?!

A: Add the total number of words published; divide the sum by the number reflecting accurate conceptualizations.

[Note: the original transcript reads “divide by” rather than “divide into”, which serves pretty well as an example of possible distortion due to non-universality of meanings.]

Q: (A) Okay, if we have 100 words, and 25 are used in the description of a concept that is accurate, is that what you mean?

A: Close.

Q: (A) How do you determine if a given word is accurate?

A: By the verity of the issuer.

Q: (A) So, words, even though words can mean different things, the verity of the speaker can give…

A: Yes, because if monitored in a state of pure non-prejudice, the accuracy level will be perceived correctly.

Q: (A) Okay, I want to read a sentence: “the first, the Great Pyramid was formed approximately 6,000 of your years ago.” I want to go through this word-by-word. The word “the”, accurate or inaccurate?

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) “First”.

A: Inaccurate.

Q: (A) “The”.

A: Neuter.

Q: (A) “Great”.

A: Accurate, in this case because of conventional agreement.

Q: (A) Now, you describe a word as neutral, but in the mathematical algorithm you gave for computing the numbers, you didn’t mention neutral words, so, what do you do with neutral words?

A: They belong to the 37 percent, as they cannot be counted subjectively as accurate.

Q: (A) “was”.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) “formed”.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) “approximately”.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) 6,000.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) “of”.

A: Neuter.

Q: (A) “your”.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) “years”.

A: Accurate.

Q: (A) Okay, if we apply the same formula to the C’s, your material, what percentage would you give?

A: Not up to us to measure.

Q: (A) Okay, you gave, concerning the pyramid the following sentence: “The Great Pyramid was built 10,643 years ago.” Is it accurate? (L) Yes, I think there is a problem. You confirmed the Ra Material on a point that contradicts what you gave yourselves!

A: Problem is not with “us,” problem is trying to compare to different frames of reference. Look for clues in terms of definition.

Q: (A) I don’t understand what you are saying. Either it was built 10,643 years ago or it was built 6,000 years ago.

A: Formed/built… you think it means the same thing, eh???

Q: (L) It was built before it was formed? (A) According to this Ra Material, was never built at all, it was formed by thoughts…

A: If your house is remodeled, then it takes a new form. Now, reread sentences in question carefully.

Q: (L) “The first, the Great Pyramid, was formed approximately 6,000 of your years ago. Then, in sequence, after this performing by thought of the building or architecture of the Great Pyramid, using the more local or earthly material rather than thought form material to build other pyramidal structures.” Now, C’s say: “The Great Pyramid was built by Atlantean descendants 10,643 years ago.”

A: No, Laura, no, no, no, no!!!!! If your house is remodeled in 1998, is that when it was built?

Q: (L) No, that is not when it was built. Okay, I get your point. Subtle clues have to be discerned. Can we use this process to analyze all the material?

A: You can, but senior citizenhood awaits its completion.

Q: (L) Is there some issue about asking this question of accuracy that needs to be addressed? One main thing we note is: Some sessions were more accurate than others depending upon who was present…

A: You got it!!!

Q: (L) Therefore, it would be difficult to assess an accuracy rating for the C’s themselves…

A: Bingo!

Q: (L) But, we can assess the material itself up to the present, keeping in mind that some parts can be more accurate than others…

A: 71.7.

Q: (L) Okay, that takes into account corruption from different people, long passages of comment from the participants, typos, reconstruction, and so forth. And, the same applies to the Ra Material… (A) Okay, suppose I have a sentence that “the Great Pyramid was built 10,000 years ago,” but really it was built yesterday, and you would give 70 per cent accuracy to this statement?

A: No.

Q: (A) But only one word is inaccurate… (L) No, only four words are accurate. If you have “The Great Pyramid was built 10,000 years ago,” you have eight words. Of those eight words, the only ones you can consider to be accurate are “Great Pyramid was built.” The word “the” is neuter, and “10,000” is inaccurate, so you divide the six words into the total and you have an accuracy rating of 75 percent. I think that, in the case of the problem you propose, it says it pretty well!

A: You are searching for a concrete formula within a vacuum of abstraction. The only way to get an accurate measurement is to wait until you can include the sum total of all the words, and then determine accuracy as a percentage of the total. With the total of all words, and each individual word as the unit of measurement.

. . .

November 21, 1998

Q: (L) The question is: in reality, what is it that really exists? What are things that really exist?

A: Gravity is the key. Now, plug in your wave functions.

Q: (L) How can you describe gravity mathematically?

A: Must be possible! Review texts re: gravity.

Q: (L) We did… and either we are so dense, or we can’t get it…

A: Not dense, emotionally clouded. When one is in a defensive mode, all is “skewed,” including this conduit. Review texts and meditate to clear consciousness of emotional poison!

. . .

The crucial point to understand here is this: if you believe that something is broken, that something needs to be fixed out there, that is exactly the reality you will experience.

If you spend your days and nights saying prayers and mantras, sending love and light here and there, or visualizing change or something different than what is at the given moment, if you assign a day to “pray for peace” or “heal the Earth”, or “converge harmonically”, you are, effectively, acting from the belief that there is something wrong, broken, needing change, needing peace, needing healing, or needing harmony. You are proclaiming, in a clear and present way, what is is not acceptable, God screwed up.

Now, let’s deal with that. Obviously, there is a lot of stuff that goes on here on the Big Blue Marble that we don’t like! There is death and decay and darkness. There is poverty and want and suffering. There is war and pestilence and disaster after disaster. What kind of a crazy person would want things to continue that way?

Not me.

But I know something from experience that gives me a different perspective. I know that the Universe is a self-regulating mechanism of which I, as a third density human being, am only a tiny, insignificant part. I also know that when I keep my judgments out of it, (remembering that judgment conveys the idea of taking some action), the Universe knows better what is needed at any given point in space-time than my limited, feeble human brain could ever conceive. Further, I know that when I get myself out of the way, when I sit back and observe what is with appreciation, with awe and wonder; with curiosity as to what clever and wonderful thing “God” is going to do next in this marvelous, endlessly changing reality in which we have our existence, I am never disappointed.

. . .

February 25, 1995

Q: (GB) Could you explain the process of the soul?

A: Soul is consciousness, period.

October 18, 1994

Q: (L) Are you part of the collective subconscious, unconscious, or consciousness? Are you part of our higher consciousness?

A: So is everything else.

November 16, 1994

A: There is no time, as you know it; it’s all just lessons for the collective consciousness.

Q: (L) So at the closing of this grand cycle everything will just start all over again?

A: Not exactly. You see; there is no start.

. . .

June 7, 1997

Q: (L) All right There are a lot of people teaching that there are divisions of ethereal being such as spirit, soul, consciousness, etc. What is the difference between the spirit and the soul?

A: Semantics.

But, curiously, going back to the former statement that consciousness is matter and matter is consciousness, the Cassiopaeans have defined four “bodies”, so to speak:

October 10, 1998

A: And remember, your consciousness operates on four levels, not just one!

Q: (L) And what are these four levels?

A: Physical body, consciousness, genetic body and spirit-etheric body.

Q: (L) Are those the four composites of the human manifestation in third density?

A: 3rd and 4th. One leads oneself, through physical actions, as well as psychic ones, to develop these “problems” when one is preparing to “bump it up” a notch.

October 23, 1999

Q: (A) The question is: is this theory that I have been developing with Blanchard for the past ten years or even more, is it a step forward; can it be made a step forward by completing it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, if it can be a step forward, the main question that we don’t know the answer to is: what is classical? Gravity or consciousness or something else? What? Or, perhaps everything is classical…

A: Classical [physics] negates consciousness, regarding the mind as merely a function of chemical functions and electrical impulses occurring within a vacuum, rather than being interfaced with the rest of creation at all levels of density and all dimensions, which is of course, the case.

Wheeler writes:

“The universe viewed as a self-excited circuit. Starting small (thin U at upper right), it grows (loop of U) to observer participancy — which in turn imparts ‘tangible reality’ to even the earliest days of the universe”

“If the views that we are exploring here are correct, one principle, observer-participancy, suffices to build everything. The picture of the participatory universe will flounder, and have to be rejected, if it cannot account for the building of the law; and space-time as part of the law; and out of law substance. It has no other than a higgledy-piggledy way to build law: out of statistics of billions upon billions of observer participancy each of which by itself partakes of utter randomness.”5

Gravity is the “glue, which binds all aspects of reality, physical and ethereal. Nothing would exist without consciousness to perceive it. Classical physics assumes, among other things, that consciousness and the brain are one and the same, or that one exclusively facilitates the other. In actuality, the brain is merely that conduit which facilitates conscious expression in the physical state of human third density states and similar manifestations.

. . .

A: The point is: stop filling your consciousness with monotheistic philosophies planted long ago to imprison your being. Can’t you see it by now, after all you have learned, that there is no source, there is no leader, there is no basis, there is no overseer, etc. You literally possess, within your consciousness profile, all the power that exists within all of Creation!?! You absolutely have all that exists, ever has, or ever will, contained within your mind. All you have to do is learn how to use it, and at that moment, you will literally, literally, be all that is, was, and ever will be!!!!!!!!

Q: (L) That is all fine and dandy and sounds wonderful, except for one little item. You also say that the monotheistic concepts were imposed on us to prevent us from knowing this. So, if we are all that is, how can something exist that can impose something so unpleasant on us?

A: Choices follow desire-based imbalances.

Q: (L) If that is the case, why can’t any one just turn off the lights, end the illusion, and everything becomes nothing?

A: Well, first of all, everything does not become anything. Secondly, some have already become everything.

. . .

December 19, 1998

Q: (L) If, at fourth density, there is variability of physicality, and the Lizzies, as you have previously said, are engineering new bodies for themselves to occupy in some sort of mass transition at the time of this realm border crossing; in this state of variability of physicality, why do they need to engineer new bodies for themselves? Why, in point of fact, are Lizzies, Lizzies? Why do they look like Lizards?

A: They do not.

Q: (L) Well, why do we call them Lizard Beings? I mean, you named them that!

A: We label in accordance with your familiarity. If we had called them “Drachomonoids,” what would be your point of reference??

Q: (L) What do they really look like? You said they resemble upright alligators with humanoid features, six to eight feet tall…

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, why do they look like that?

A: Biology.

Q: (L) Does biology exist at fourth density?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Yet, it is a variable physical density, right?

A: Yes, but what is your assumption here?

Q: (L) I don’t know what my assumption is. I guess that I am assuming that if it is a variable state, they could have a different biology very easily. Isn’t that the case?

A: No.

Q: (L) Can they appear as something else? Change their physicality?

A: Temporarily.

Q: (L) When you say “temporary”, what exactly do you mean? Temporal relates to time.

A: We have explained before that the biggest single factor regarding densities is the awareness level.

Q: (L) Okay, how does that relate to them only being able to temporarily change their appearance. Is this because they can control our awareness?

A: Closer. Are you not yet aware that absolutely everything, we repeat: everything is an illusion?!?

Q: (A) They say here that everything is an illusion, and on the other hand they say there is consciousness and matter. Everything is an illusion? Even this?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) God is also an illusion?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Illusion to whom?

A: To those not on Level Seven. Your learning naturally dictates your experiences. Once you no longer require something, you naturally move beyond it. However, you retain it as a function of understanding.

Q: (A) And I am also an illusion! And understanding is also an illusion! (L) Back to my question: who created Lizzies as Lizzies? (A) Our illusion…

A: Everything is real; therefore, illusion is reality.

Q: (L) If everything is an illusion, from what does this illusion spring, and into what space does it spring?

A: Your consciousness.

Q: (L) Where did this consciousness originate?

A: Consciousness is the absolute, the center point.

Q: (L) Where is it centered?

A: Within the Access. The prompt that begets energy.

Q: (L) Of what is this energy made?

A: The consciousness.

Q: (L) Was there ever a time when this consciousness did not exist?

A: No, but there never was a time.

Q: (L) What prompted this consciousness to dream up all these illusions?

A: Need for balance. Energy cannot exist within a vacuum, therefore it must pulse. Hence you have waves.

Q: (L) What was the impetus for the need for balance?

A: Not a need, per se, just a natural function.

Q: (L) Well, when you have a pulse, you have a wave, and if you have a wave, that implies time.

A: Therein lies the crux of your 3rd density illusion. Why assume that any given aspect of the pulse is not occurring simultaneously with any other. And if any are, all are. Until you once and for all break free from the illusion of time, you will not advance.

Q: (L) Well, back to my question…

A: No, your question cannot be answered unless you stop assuming the range of acceptable answers.

The Truth Is Out There, But Trust No One!


Q: (L) Yes. Okay. How “long”, and I put long in quotes, because we know, as you say, there is no time, but how long, as we measure it, have the Grays been interacting with our race? The Grays, not the Lizards, the Grays, created cybergenetic probes?

A: Time travelers, therefore, “Time is ongoing.”

Q: (L) Okay, recently I read a couple of books J gave me, Knight in Shining Armor, and Replay. Both of these books described time travel… [And both are great reading!]

A: No, not finished with answer. Do you understand the gravity of last response?

Q: (L) They are time travelers, they can move forward and backward in time, they can play games with our heads… (T) They can set up the past to create a future they want. (D) They can organize things so that they can create the energy that they need… (L) They can also make things look good, make them feel good, make them seem good, they can make you have an idea one minute, and then the next minute, create some sort of situation that confirms that idea…

A: When you asked how long, of course it is totally unlimited, is it not?

Q: (L) That’s not good. If they were to move back through space-time and alter an event in our past, would that alteration in the past instantaneously alter our present as well?

A: Has over and over and over.

Q: (D) So they do it over and over and over, constantly?

A: You just are not yet aware, and have no idea of the ramifications!!!

. . .

August 12, 1995

Q: (L) My first question is: What is the source of the Vedas? The Hindu system of philosophy?

A: There is more than one source. It came into being as a result of meditation.

Q: (L) And what people were responsible for this information?

A: Caucasian.

Q: (L) What period of time were the Vedas received?

A: Varying bits and pieces of information, which later was organized into packages, labeled as it is.

Q: (L) From what realm did this meditated information issue?

A: The realm of the subconscious mind.

Q: (L) Is any of the Vedic information that which was given to man by extra-terrestrials?

A: Not as you would define it.

Q: (L) From what types of beings, or what level of density did this information issue from?

A: Third.

Q: (L) So it is a third density interpretation of reality. What is the percentage of accuracy of the information given in the Vedas? Overall?

A: Accurate at what level? That’s an extremely difficult question to answer as accuracy in determining such things as perceiving the universe and living one’s life is entirely open to interpretation as anyone can resolve accuracy by relating to the parallel universe, which is appropriate for the information given. And, as we have stated in the past, it is possible to create parallel universes through thought energy, and once they are created naturally, they correspond naturally to the interpretation given for them.

Q: (L) Is there any benefit to be obtained through the use of mantras?

A: Especially when the mind says there is. Remember, most all power necessary for altering reality and physicality is contained within the belief center of the mind. This is something you will understand more closely when you reach 4th density reality where physicality is no longer a prison, but is instead, your home, for you to alter as you please. In your current state, you have the misinterpretation of believing that reality is finite and therein lies your difficulty with finite physical existence.

Q: (L) Close enough. Is it true that recitation of mantras can affect spirit release or exorcism?

A: If you please.

Q: (L) Last week, the remark was made, regarding spirit release and exorcism that if it is done properly, by the right person, that there are no side effects or eventualities that would bring detrimental conditions to the individuals and location involved. What was meant by “done correctly”? What is the correct format or mode for exorcism?

A: Correct manner involves honesty and understanding that one has complete faith and awareness of the activities pursued. In other words, when one performs an act, which they proclaim to be having a desired result, and they do not have faith in their own actions as, in fact, producing the desired result, then the effort will collapse because of their lack of faith. Whereas when one has complete faith and multi-density understanding, their activities are indeed truth and useful as prescribed and this is the correct way to pursue them.

Q: (L) Isn’t faith a difficult commodity to acquire?

A: Not at all. When you have found something of truth you will receive demonstrations that locks in your faith.

Q: (L) Earlier today, while talking with this fellow, Ram, the Vedic astrologer, he proposed that the Vedic idea of who and what the Lizard Beings were was correct and that this is the activation of the sexual principle, or kundalini within us. Any kind of UFO or alien activity is merely the reflection of what is inside all of us. Is this a correct assessment?

A: Part of the answer to that question, if you refer back to the answers to the earlier questions, is of a similar nature. But, in truth, the best way to most adequately answer those questions is to ask yourself what do you believe, based on the knowledge that you have collected and have been given.

Q: (L) Well, I sometimes wonder if they are not part of ourselves, in a parallel universe, and they emerge into our world and interact with us in a negative way. And, that the stories of alien—human interaction are really just stories of human performance of mechanical operations, guided by negative aspects of their own being in another dimension or density. Would this not be a distinct possibility?

A: Not in the sense that you are thinking. Remember, it is always wise to review all the previously gathered information whenever any new ideas appear before you. This is true not only in this particular instance, but also all others as well. For example, how often would mere thought patterns, or realities emerging from a parallel universe, appear in desert locations and be retrieved by third density beings for study in the third density realm? Now, if indeed you believe that this has happened, and it HAS, one must contemplate the meaning of such and how it relates to one’s proposal that the whole issue involves much higher levels of density on the etheric plane, and, or, inter dimensional capabilities that cannot be measured within the realm of third density. These theories, certainly, are part of the answer, but merely a part of the answer, and none of them represents the entire answer. And we caution very strongly that you avoid falling into the trap of believing too strongly in any one explanation that appears, as this too, is a form of attack which can lead to destructive consequences.

Q: (L) So, there are actual, material, alien craft that have been captured or retrieved by the government and studied?

A: Do you have any doubt of this?

Q: (L) Well, sometimes I wonder if the whole thing is cooked up by the government just to make us all crazy!

A: Well that’s an interesting concept, but we can assure you, that that is not, in any way, correct.

Q: (L) Well, if these craft emerge into our reality from fourth density, as I assume some of them do, how do they stay here? Do they become absolutely physically material and do they remain here?

A: If they malfunction in third density, they then become frozen in third density. Very simple.

Q: (L) And, does the same hold true for the beings?

A: Precisely.

Q: (L) So, in a very real sense, they are very real and physical…

A: They are very real and physical in fourth density, too. The difference is that fourth density physicality is not the same as third density physicality. But that is not to say that there is no physicality in fourth density.

In order to completely remove all attachment to physicality, one must reach sixth density or higher. Everything below that involves some aspect of physicality or attachment to physicality, as in fifth density, the contemplation zone, which is simply a recycling of those from 1st through 4th densities, in the etheric plane. They are brought back down and recycled into one of the physical realms.

Each density level, one through four, involves lesser and lesser physicality, as you know it, but nevertheless there still is physicality. Third density physicality, however, remains constant on third density.

When a being or a craft or an instrument of any kind manufactured or conceived in fourth density arrives in third density, it is able to navigate through third density in fourth density reality. However, when it malfunctions, whatever is left of it remains in third density.

Those reports of objects or of any physical structure whatsoever, be it a being or a construct, disappearing from third density to fourth density, in each and every case, involves an object or a being, or a construct, which is not in the process of malfunctioning. It is still fully operational at its fourth density realm. It is merely visiting third density which has a limited capacity, as you measure time in its passage, therefore it does, indeed, remove itself naturally, at some point, to fourth density. However, if it malfunctions or is in any way broken or altered, it will remain in third density.

Q: (L) So, if someone removes an implant, the best way to keep it here would be to smash it?

A: If someone removes an implant it is no longer functioning as it was designed to function.

. . .

One question that arises is: are there any limits to these dimensions? We have already been told that densities are seven in number, and this relates in a powerful way to many ancient teachings. In his most interesting explication of this subject, The Ancient Wisdom, Geoffrey Ashe writes that his researches have indicated that the:

Magical and sacred character of the number seven … is a key to dangerous forces… If we consider seven impartially, certain facts about it become plain, and all of them suggest … a thread that is worth following.

To begin with, if there are indeed any such things as occult clues to Ancient Wisdom, the number seven looks as if it could qualify. Two major sciences did emerge from magical systems, which, in their Western forms, were grounded on seven. Astronomy emerged from astrology, chemistry from alchemy; and astrology and alchemy were mystically linked by this number. (emphasis added)

For more than two thousand years astrologers worked not only with the sun, but with the moon and the five true planets known as Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Their modern heirs have tried to add the three planets discovered since, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, but the results have seldom carried conviction. For all vital purposes, Western astrology has always been a septenary system, based on the planets wandering through the signs, the Seven interpreting and channeling the Twelve.

[Laura’s note: Some say that the ancients knew that there were more planets, but they picked out the seven that really count as influences and revealed only these to the wider public.]

Western alchemy knew also seven metals. Each metal was matched to a ruling planet.

[This constant reference to the number seven] is a genuine human quirk that has no obvious motive… The frequency of seven in other contexts proves that we are confronted here with a deep-seated mental reality that deserves attention.

We still schedule our work and leisure by the seven-day week. Its stubborn survival has no logic or convenience.

Most human beings who have lived by the seven-day week, as a native inheritance, have also attuned their ears to a seven-note scale and made their music with this for many centuries. A physical fact does underlie its length. If you start from C, the next C, an octave higher, has twice the vibration-rate. But the seven steps on the way are a product of conditioning. The Chinese do not have them. Their scale consists of five notes.

So likewise with optics. We insist on regarding the spectrum as having seven colours, violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, and red. The Chinese count them differently. For them there are five colours of the rainbow.

Far back in time is a powerful pressure, which has not yet been explained. Westerners (or their cultural forebears in the nearer part of Asia) felt obliged to have seven metals, to match the planets. They felt obliged to have seven planets because… well, because of what? The number was vital, and that, for the moment, is all we can safely say. Early Iranian astrology had nine planets. So did the Hindu astrology that was derived from it. The Chinese, as in other cases, settled on five, the correct list without the sun and moon.

The list of planets made up by the Babylonians is an odd one, if you compare the bodies concerned — to give the sun and moon the same status as Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn…

The dominance of seven has thus far defeated all explainers-away. It does not yield to any known technique of psychological analysis. The reason for it seems to lie in some other direction.

It looks, in fact, as if the Babylonians chose to have seven planets because of a pre-existing mystique of the heptad. (Ashe, 1977)

Ashe tracks the number seven all over the planet, and his conclusions, considering the many clues the Cassiopaeans have given in regard to the matter, are very important. The Cassiopaean statement that there are seven levels of density, and only seven, is supported by a great body of ancient wisdom and, in fact, it may be one of the very keys to the Ancient Technology.

. . .

Q: (L) But why Seven? What is the significance of the number seven?

A: Why not? Is there “significance” to anything?

Q: (L) Only the significance we give it, I guess.

A: And if so, what is that?

Q: (T) Well, it is interesting to me because it means there was a structure to the way things were set up. There must have been a reason it was selected this way as opposed to another way.

A: Really?

Q: (T) It didn’t just happen. Nothing just happens!

A: Who says?

Q: (L) Are you saying, essentially, that it is the way it is because things are just arbitrarily that way?

A: No, we are trying to teach you how to complete the puzzle.

Q: (T) So there is a reason it is what it is and that is something we have to figure out.

A: And you have to figure out what is reason. Much of your learning to this point is based upon assumption of definitions of reality.

Q: (L) And, all of our assumptions are completely wrong?

A: Not all. Logic is subjective.

Q: (L) Is symbolic logic as is used in mathematics subjective?

A: No.

Q: (L) But you always come up with different things using math than mentation. Okay. Well, we opened a can of worms here. (T) We do that every time. (J) Worms are us! [Laughter]

A: Ongoing project.

. . .

Q: (L) Physicists talk about multidimensional universes. The idea is that our 3-dimensional space and 1-dimensional time is an illusion of plane beings, while the true universe has more dimensions perpendicular to the above ones. Physicists have different guesses here: 5, 6, 7, 11, and 256. How many dimensions does the true universe have?

A: Not correct concept. Should be: How many universes does the “true” dimension have?

Q: (L) All right, then. I think that from a previous session we were told that the number of universes was not countable. Is that correct?

A: Infinite, maybe, but more to the point: variable and selective.

Q: (L) Explain variable and selective, please?

A: For those who know how, universes can be created at will in order to trans-modify reality merge.

Q: (L) What is a reality merge?

A: What does it sound like?

Q: (T) Merging of realities from one universe into another? A creating of a new reality, which is then merged with the old to create a new universe. (L) Maybe it means the realities of different people merge to create a sort of “mutual universe”? Like the idea “you create your own reality”?

A: T is closer; Laura is playing “left field”.

Q: (L) The next question: The C’s, Andromedans and others talk about “densities”. We are supposed to live in third density. Does this number three have anything to do with three space dimensions?

A: Original definition closer to 3rd level of experience, relating material/ethereal spectrum, but denizens of Terra Locator came up with “Third Dimensional” explanation due to influences upon the subconscious mind from soul memory connection to the Akashic record.

Q: (L) Well, I also want to know why you refer to a technological device that supposedly transports someone from one density to another, as a “Trans Dimensional Remolecularizer”?

A: In order to reconstruct 3rd density into 4th density physical, other dimensions must be utilized in the process. Remember, we are talking about exact duplicates, which are merged.

Q: (L) But, a little while ago you said there was a single dimension and many universes, and now you are saying utilizing another dimension, so the terminology is getting to be a little bit confusing… (T) It is like a program loading onto a computer. Some programs just load straight in. Others need to create a space on the hard drive to put files that they need to load the program, but are not part of the program, and when it is finished loading, it erases all the “loading instructions”. The hard drive is still the hard drive, but for a time, the program used a sector of the hard drive, and created a temporary dimension, let’s say. (L) Is this what we are looking at here?

A: Close. And remember, we said “true” dimension!

Q: (L) So, it is like one hard drive, many programs, loading instructions for new programs that are then erased, etc. If there is one “true dimension”, and infinite universes within it, does one particular universe exist, of and by itself, at any given time, until it is merged into a new one, or is there within this one true dimension, multiple universes as real as ours is, to which we could go, and could be there alongside ours, so to speak?

A: Yes to the latter.

Q: (L) And, can infinite numbers of “dimensions” exist within each level of density, even if temporary?

A: Yes. If you want to go back and change “history”, either for individuals or for universal perception, you must first create an alternate universe to do it. Your 4th density STS “friends” have been doing this a lot.

Q: (L) If you, being a general term, create an alternate universe, does the former one continue to exist, or does the former one merge into the new one?

A: Both.

Q: (T) The universe you are in; you are going along and say, “I think I will create a new Universe.” You do it, and move to it, and you bring your universe with you. That is the merging of realities. But, when you move to the new universe, you are no longer in the original one, which continues along on its own. The pattern of the old universe, you bring into the new one, and when you become part of the new universe you have just created, you are no longer part of the old one you just left. It just goes along with everybody else there. (L) Is this correct?

A: Sort of… remember, one can create all ranges of types of alternate possibilities.

Q: (L) So you could create a new universe with a new “past”, even?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in that way, both actually occur and you can change the whole thing?

A: When merged, the former never existed.

Q: (T) Not for the person creating the new universe, but the former will continue for everybody else.

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, for the person creating a new universe, the former never existed, but the other beings who are satisfied with that old universe, and “go” with it, are still continuing along as though…

A: Your 3rd density mind restrictions limit the scope of your comprehension in this area.

Q: (L) If you decide you don’t like your present universe, and you work like crazy to learn how to create a new one, and you do it, do you, essentially, forget that you did this? And why you did this? And forget the other universe?

A: If you wish.

Q: (L) So you can or you can’t… (T) Going by what you just said: “an unhappy universe”, is that because you’re perceiving the universe you are in as being unhappy because that is the way you are and where you are at, in terms of learning, and by creating a new universe, you are simply wishing to change the way the universe is around you, and really it’s not the universe that has a problem, but you…

A: Off track.

Q: (L) So, the universe you are in, is what it is, and you are in it for some reason… (T) You’re in it to learn lessons… just to change the universe because you don’t want to learn the lessons you’ve chosen to learn… (L) Or, you have learned them and thereby can change the universe… (T) When you learn, you just move on automatically, you don’t have to change the universe. The universe will change for you.

A: Deja  vu comes to you compliments of 4th density STS.

Q: (L) Is deja  vu a result of some sensation of the universe having changed?

A: Or… some sensation of reality bridging.

Q: (T) As you move into the new universe, you have leftovers?

A: No.

Q: (L) What is reality bridging?

A: What does it sound like?

Q: (L) Is it somewhat like merging universes? (T) A bridge is something you put between two things…

A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will be obsolete!

Q: (L) That still doesn’t help me to understand deja  vu as a “sensation of reality bridging.” Is deja  vu because something comes into our reality from another?

A: One possibility.

Q: (T) Didn’t we talk about this? That it is a bleed through from other dimensions… that when we think we have been someplace before, it is because in another dimension we have…

A: Yes.

Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been created and merged by fourth density STS, and there is still the old universe existing, and you feel a connection, or a bridging, because some alternate self is in that alternate universe, living through some experience… or a similar thing?

A: No limits of possibilities.


Then, of course, there is the question of making “leaps” — wanting to skip over the third density part and go right back to where all is wonderful and happy and peaceful. One has to realize that this sort of thinking is more deeply STS than it might at first appear because, in the end, what is wanted is to escape the hard work of learning the lessons of this density. What is wanted is ease and comfort and no work. Such individuals want to sit in circles, contemplate their navels and chant “Oooommmm”, while bombarding the planet with their “unconditional love and light” so that everybody else will get with their program, and we can all go home now! (Note that “their program” contradicts the unconditional nature of the love and light they send!)

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Remember, density refers to one’s conscious awareness only. Once one is aware, ALL conforms to that awareness.

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We see a flower, but we are hypnotized as to how to perceive it. We see clouds, but we are hypnotized as to how to see them. We don’t really know what the true reality is! We don’t really know what an “essential flower” looks like. What we are seeing is our interpretation of a series of waves or fluctuations of the medium of our reality, which we interpret according to our programs or hypnosis. We see only three dimensions of what is conceivably several.

The next important thing about the story is that, depending on the program different people can attribute different hidden forces to the phenomena presented, according to their belief systems. But, what we wish to know is: what is the objective reality?

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Each and every human being perceives the Third Man according to their programming which activates or is activated by their belief system. This is their “state of awareness”. They can only be aware of what they believe they can be aware of, and all else becomes either “invisible” or “anomalous” and disregarded or covered up by the survival program of the subconscious mind.

As one continues to think about this problem, one realizes that there is a possibly huge gap between what we perceive as real and the actual objective reality… and no matter how we try to be objective, we can never be sure. The only thing that seems to offer a way out is to simply observe the phenomena and compare the perceptions with a lot of other folks and try to narrow down the “constant” that is present in all of them. In this way, we can have a closer idea of what the Third Man really is, and what he is really doing, and what then, should be our best response. And, of course, observing phenomena means, in its most literal sense, to gain and gather knowledge of every form and sort so that one has a sufficient database from which to draw conclusions about observations of one’s environment.

But, this is difficult to do because one’s beliefs are intimately tied to emotions! Remember: our beliefs are formed in emotional situations of interactions with our parents and other authorities of our infancy and childhood. It is very frightening to even contemplate breaking free of this safe, inner environment.

But that is exactly what we must do.

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A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle.

Going back to your previous question about why humans are “entrapped” in physical existence, which, of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely — what you would call — ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence.

The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half.

The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

Q: (L) Does this interaction produce a byproduct?

A: It produces equal byproducts of a positive and negative nature.

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So, there I sat, watching these kids and I thought about applying these primate study guides to them. I noticed some funny things about their body language; who touched whom and how and where, how they positioned themselves in relation to one another, etc. Through these maneuvers, I could actually see a sort of pecking order existed. There was always one, in every group of five to ten kids, who seemed to be the dominator.

I noticed that the dominator actually seemed to swell and stand taller and look wider and fuller after a few minutes of being fawned over, touched and so forth. There were also selected persons who the dominator would fondle in one way or another, as though tapping a battery and taking the juice out of it. Not only that, but after so many minutes, I noticed that some of the kids in the groups, would begin to slump and almost visibly shrink as though all the “juice” had gone out of them, and drift away looking tired and defeated.

Shades of The Matrix! I suddenly realized that I was watching them feed on each other! It was one of the most truly bizarre and frightening insights I have ever had. I could see that energy was being transferred from one person to another to another with the dominator getting the lion’s share at the end.

Well, that was a pretty interesting revelation. So, I started doing this a lot. I would watch people interact with one another to try to determine what the dynamics actually were. It was always better if I could hear nothing that they were saying, just to observe them from a distance without them knowing that I was watching. And, sure enough, it was a pretty standard thing. In every situation, there was a sort of feeding of energy going on.

Then, I started observing married people, trying to determine who was the dominator, not in our terms, but in terms of who was getting the energy. Curiously, as often as not, it was the one who might have been thought the weaker or more helpless of the two — the one who evoked the most sympathy by their words and complaints, that actually swelled on the attentions of the “strong” rescuer. I then started to think about sympathy and pity in different terms altogether. I was seeing that it was truly a manipulation to get more juice.

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Seemingly synchronous events can be created and presented to the individual to persuade them that what they are doing or thinking is along the correct path because the very universe has “confirmed” it for them thereby.

The manipulations and variations are endless, incredibly deep, and cunning beyond all understanding. And, it was a horrible thing to see! I understood that nearly all of humanity is merely FOOD. They are controlled and manipulated from birth to the grave just as depicted in the movie The Matrix, only they are not “batteries” for some computers that have run amok and taken over the world — they are literally physical and energy food for beings at higher densities. And, because of their ignorance, they can do nothing. Because they are not awake, they have no free will.

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Conceive yourself, if possible, suddenly stripped of all the emotion with which your world now inspires you and try to imagine it as it exists, purely by itself, without your favorable, hopeful or apprehensive comment.

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Tolstoy writes: ‘…I was neither insane nor ill. On the contrary, I possessed a physical and mental strength, which I have rarely met in persons of my age. I could mow as well as the peasants; I could work with my brain eight hours uninterruptedly and feel no bad effects. And yet I could give no reasonable meaning to any actions of my life. And I was surprised that I had not understood this from the very beginning. My state of mind was as if some wicked and stupid jest was being played upon me by someone.

‘One can live only so long as one is intoxicated, drunk with life but when one grows sober one cannot fail to see that it is all a stupid cheat. What is truest about it is that there is nothing even funny or silly in it; it is cruel and stupid, purely and simply.

‘But perhaps, I said to myself, there may be something I have failed to notice or to comprehend. It is not possible that this condition of despair should be natural to mankind. And I sought for an explanation in all the branches of knowledge acquired by men.

‘I questioned painfully and protractedly and with no idle curiosity. I sought, not with indolence, but laboriously and obstinately for days and nights on end. I sought like a man who is lost and seeks to save himself — and I found nothing.

‘I became convinced, moreover, that all those who before me had sought for an answer in the sciences have also found nothing. And not only this, but that they have recognized that the very thing which was leading me to despair — the meaningless absurdity of life — is the only incontestable knowledge accessible to man.’

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In the once born, the world is a one-storied affair … whose parts have just the values which they appear to have … [to the twice born] the world is a double-storied mystery. Natural good is not simply insufficient in amount and transience; there lurks a falsity in its very being. It keeps us from our real good and renunciation and despair of it are our first step in the direction of the truth. There are two lives, the natural and the spiritual and we must lose the one before we can participate in the other.

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“Are they equal,” asks the Koran, “those who know and those who know not?” (39:9) Knowledge is a divine attribute of all-encompassingness, so it is the most excellent bounty of God… For man, the seeker of knowledge, the acquisition of knowledge is endless, since the objects of knowledge are endless. This is the secret of man’s felicity. Knowledge, the greatest good, is also the greatest joy and the greatest pleasure. The never-ending trajectory of man’s life in the next world has to be explained in terms of his constant growth in knowledge.

For the felicitous, this knowledge is totally congruent and harmonious with their souls, which have been shaped in this world throughout faith and practice, and hence every increase in knowledge is an increase in felicity. For the wretched, knowledge of things as they actually are is a searing torture, since it contradicts their beliefs and practices in this world. Every new knowledge — every new self-disclosure, recognized now for what it is — is a new misery.

Unveiling gives knowledge of the actual situation.

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If the only Face of God you choose to see, is the “Good and Loving” face, the other face has not ceased to exist — it has merely become the Third Man who you cannot see and which will act in your life in ways you cannot comprehend. It is a little like being “in love” with someone who has certain characteristics that you decide to try to change, or to “put up with”. If learning to love means to love unconditionally, how can you say you love someone — a specific individual — if there are parts of that person you do not love? You don’t really love that person as he/she is. What you are actually in love with is your image of the person, not the person his or herself. In a sense, you could say that you are in love with yourself since you are the creator of the image of what your “loved one” ought to be. And the same is true of our “Love of God”. How can we possibly love Him, if we deny fully half of His being? If we set ourselves up as judge and jury as to what part of the universe, what part of existence, what part of GOD, is acceptable and “okay”?

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A: You see; we speak to all of you when we say this. It’s now time for you, as individuals, to try to move away, as much as possible, not to force yourselves, of course, but to try and move away at your own pace as much as possible, from the constraints of third density.

You have all learned lessons to the level where you are more than ready to begin to prepare for fourth density. Third density involves a level of physicality and restriction and restraint and all of the things that go along with those that you no longer need.

So, therefore, even though we understand that at times it may feel comfortable to cling to this, there is time for you — and there is that word again — it is time for you to consider moving ahead and get ready for fourth density and not to be concerned with such things as time or how to free yourself from the illusion of time. That really is not important. That’s like the third grade student delving into mathematics and stopping everything to go back and contemplate the ABC’s and why it isn’t CBA or BAC. There really is no point. It is what it is. They are what they are.

Q: (L) That is what I want to know, what is it?

A: Why do you need to know this?

Q: (L) Because I am curious. What is time?

A: We have already told you that it is a non-existent, artificial creation of illusion for the point of learning at the level where you are at or were, and once you have left that level, you no longer need it.

Q: (T) Maybe one of the lessons is to learn not to worry about time. Once you learn that time is not real…

A: If something is not real, is there any concern in worrying about what it is? Imagine a conversation between two people: Billy and Gene. Billy says to Gene, “There is no such thing as time.” Gene says, “Oh, really? But I want to know what it is.” Billy says, “But I just told you there is no such thing. Time does not exist. It is not real in any form, in any frame of reference, in any form of reality, any level of density. It simply does not exist.” And, Gene says: “Oh, that’s interesting. Now, again, what is this time?”

Q: (L) Point taken. (T) Do you wear a watch? (L) No. (SV) I have to because of my schedule. (T) But, you wear the watch because other people believe in time? (SV) Yes. (T) And that is out of courtesy for their belief, not your belief.

A: That is precisely correct. While you are still in this third density it is still necessary for you to conform, to a certain extent, to the ways of others who are more comfortable within the realm of third density. But, as we have stated previously, perhaps it is “time” for you to begin preparing for fourth density and not concern yourself any more than is absolutely necessary with all the where’s and why’s and what for’s of third density reality. This truly is behind you now, and we know that because we can see from all levels six through one and back again in full cycle.

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“An STS vehicle does not learn how to be an STO candidate by determining the needs of another.”

Q: (T) You have said a couple of times that you are STS by being STO. Is this not true?

A: Yes. Already answered.

Q: (T) Kind of like: what goes around, comes around?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is STO a means to an end for STS?

A: No. STO is balance. STS is imbalance.

Q: (T) How can you be STS through STO if STS is imbalance?

A: STO flows outward and touches all including point of origin, STS flows inward and touches only origin point.


Q: (L) You have said that the Holocaust was basically a ‘practice run’ for the ultimate space invasion. Was Hitler’s agenda a practice run for a future scenario?

A: Close. Was a “testing” of the will.

Q: (L) Whose will was being tested?

A: Yours.

Q: (L) Me specifically, or the planet?

A: Latter.

Q: (L) In terms of this scenario, is there some lesson that we can learn about what may or may not occur through this book I have mentioned?

A: Maybe, but suggest you learn to blend mosaic consciousness.

Q: (L) What is mosaic consciousness?

A: Thinking in internally spherical terms, rather than using linear “point blank” approach. The whole picture is seen by seeing the whole scene. Picture yourself as being at the center of a mosaic.

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Q: (L) Okay. Okay. This whole situation, this Polish connection, this German connection,1 the American and alien things, the soldier/Nephilim thing, these are all manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing, am I correct?

A: Close.

Q: (L) And some of the manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing are that some people graduate or transition to fourth density, that their awareness changes, everything changes, the playing field is leveled. So, what happened in Germany was a ‘practice run’ but what is going to happen is that the ‘playing field’ is going to be leveled, so it will not be exactly the same scenario, is this a correct assessment?

A: Maybe. All right, my dear, you want the facts, so we will give them to you, and hopefully you will comprehend. If not now, then when necessary maybe…

Fact number one: All there is is lessons.

Fact two: This is one big school.

Fact three: Timing as you perceive it, is never, never definite.

Fact four: What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not occur until you have reached that point on the learning cycle, and you are not close yet.

Fact five: The learning cycle is variable, and progress along it is determined by events and circumstances as they unfold.

Q: (L) So, the events and circumstances of our lives, individually and collectively, can indicate where we are on this learning cycle? And we are asking to have things told to us, or revealed to us about things that are, in themselves, the necessary lessons? And it would be virtually useless to be told about them since they must be experienced?

A: Partly correct. If you want hints, then hints shall we give. But, if you are looking for a “road map?” Forgetitski!

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Q: (MM) Don’t you get more free will by assimilating knowledge?

A: Yes!! Yes!!

Q: (L) So, in other words, knowledge and awareness makes you aware that you have free will, and also makes you aware of what actions actually are acts of free will, and therefore, when you know or suspect the difference between the lies and deception and truth, then you are in a position to be in control of your life?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Ark also wants to ask… Well, his problem is faith, as he said it to me.

A: Faith comes also from knowledge, and as we have stated before… False knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all!!!!!

Q: (L) So, it is important to take each and every thing that is being learned or analyzed, and take it completely apart and dig in every direction around it, and even in related directions, to fully ascertain that it is true? As C.S. Lewis said, knowledge is like a rope… as long as you are using it to tie up a box, it doesn’t matter whether it is perfect or not, but if you have to use it to hang over a precipice, then it behooves you to make absolutely certain that it is strong enough to support your weight.

A: Yes.

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A: That information you refer to is false in its entirety! “Passion” does not set one “free,” quite the opposite!

Q: (L) But what if your passion is for knowledge?

A: That is not passion. It is soul questing.

Q: (L) What is it that gives some people this drive, this steamroller effect, that they are determined to get to the absolute bottom of everything and strip away every lie until there is nothing left but the naked truth? What is the source of this desire?

A: Wrong concept. It is simply that one is at that point on the learning cycle. At that point, no drive is needed.

Q: (L) So, you more or less are there because some critical mass has been reached that “jumps” you to the point where seeking truth is simply who you are? It defines the parameters of your being. Is it like a 360-degree circle, and each person is a different point on the circle, and the whole thing cycles, and you never change relative to the people behind and in front of you, and the only real thing you can do to help anyone is to move the circle by moving yourself, thereby pushing the one ahead of you up, and pulling the one behind you into your previous place? And where you are on the cycle determines what you do?

A: It is a single cycle, yes. There is only one learning cycle, and where you are upon it, determines your EXPERIENCES, and vice versa.

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Q: (L) Is choice as intimately connected with the path, as I understand it? Is it just simply part of how you are configured in your soul essence?

A: Close.

Q: (L) And there are people for whom STS is simply their choice. It is their path.

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, it is a judgment and a disservice to try to convert someone to your path, even if you perceive the end result of the path they are on, that it leads to dissolution? It is still their chosen path?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, if you send “buckets of love and light” to such a one, and that is their path, you are violating their free will?

A: You might as well send “buckets” of vomit, as that is how they will react. Judgment is STS.

Q: (L) You told us before that stars and planets are portals, or openings into other densities. Is it possible that this oncoming wave, this Realm Border Crossing will be accessed through these types of portals, that it is not something that is actually in our ‘space,’ but that it would emanate through stars and planets? Am I onto something here?

A: You may be starting down a long path. Just remember: All prophecies attached to calendar dates are useless unless you wish to be sucked up by the fourth density STS forces!

Q: (L) Speaking of being sucked up by fourth density STS forces, MM was told by her local Hindu gathering that she was “vacuuming” up their energies and they invited her to either get with the program or find another group to hang out with. What kind of an interaction was this? Why were they so uncomfortable in her presence?

A: Because they wished to be worshipped.

Q: (L) Does that mean that being worshipped is the equivalent of sucking energy?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, I am curious about the doggie image that was on the photo that MM took and showed to me?

A: In these times, 2nd density creatures will collect more and more attachments.

Q: (L) Are these attachments like other entities?

A: Yes, and others.

Q: (L) When they are collecting these attachments, are they collecting them from us, as in protecting?

A: No.

Q: (L) Are they being used to collect attachments to be detrimental to us?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why are our animals picking up attachments?

A: Because of vibrational frequency intensifications, i.e. The Wave.

Q: (L) Is there something we could do? I mean, are we supposed to get rid of pets?

A: We would never suggest something as harsh as this. However, beware: third density STS orientation includes the thought of “dominion” over 2nd density, and this is merely a continuation of the energy buildups of the approach of The Wave… Some of the lessons are interesting indeed. When you assume that capture and imprisonment of those of lesser capacity than you is for “their good,” why should not you expect those of greater capacity than you to assume the same regarding you?!? We would like you to ponder this further. We suspect there is much to be gained from insights lurking there.


A: All is just lessons. Thoughts unify all reality in existence and are all shared.

Q: (Susy) You travel on a wave of energy created by all thought forms?

A: Thought forms are all that exists!

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A: What is “future,” anyway?

Q: (L) The future is simultaneous events, just different locales in space/time, just a different focus of consciousness, is that correct?

A: Yes, so if that is true, why try to apply linear thinking here, you see, we are merging with you right now!

Q: They ride the wave in? And you can’t see where the wave is coming from?

A: All I can see is we have to get prepared.

Q: How do we get prepared?

A: They are preparing us.

Q: Do we have to do anything ourselves?

A: We are programmed.

Q: How can one tell if one is programmed?

A: Things will be triggered. You are set up to do certain things… movies, books; different things trigger things that are in your subconscious… I see a key, or a wheel… how a wheel fits together… two wheels fit together and it clicks in.

Q: Okay. This wave you speak of, do you sense that it is a wave coming from deep space or is it a wave coming from within our solar system?

A: It’s on its way! We don’t know about it but somebody knows.

Q: Who knows, does the government know?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the generative source?

A: Part of Grand Cycle.

Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood by the Mayans?

A: They understood partially.

Q: (L) Their calendar extends to 2012… Is that accurate as to the time of the realm border change?

A: Close. Still indefinite, as you measure time. Lizzies5 hoping to rule you in fourth density. Closer to 18 years.

And, 18 years from the date of the above session would be December 2012. But, let’s not get too focused on that since there is a lot more material to cover.

Q: (L) Does any of this mean that the Earth Changes that have been predicted, may not, in fact, occur in physical reality, as we understand it?

A: You betcha.

Q: (L) Does this mean that all of this running around and hopping and jumping to go here and go there and do this and do that is…

A: That is strictly 3rd level thinking.

Q: (L) Now, if that is third level thinking, and if a lot of these things are symbolic, I am assuming they are symbolic of movement or changes in energy.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, if these changes in energy occur does this mean that the population of the planet are, perhaps, in groups or special masses of groups, are they defined as the energies that are changing in these descriptions of events and happenings of great cataclysm? Is it like a cataclysm of the soul on an individual and or collective basis?

A: Close.

Q: (L) When the energy changes to fourth density…and you have already told us that people who are moving to fourth density when the transition occurs, that they will move into fourth density, go through some kind of rejuvenation process, grow new teeth, or whatever…what happens to those people who are not moving to fourth density, and who are totally unaware of it? Are they taken along on the wave by, in other words, piggybacked by, the ones who are aware and already changing in frequency, or are they going to be somewhere else doing something else?

A: Step by step.

Q: (T) In other words, we are looking at the fact that what’s coming this time is a wave that’s going to allow the human race to move to fourth density?

A: And the planet and your entire sector of space/time.

Q: (T) Is that what this whole plan is about, then, if I may be so bold as to include all of us here in this? There are people who have come here into human form, to anchor the frequency… Is this what we are anchoring it for, for this wave, so that when it comes enough of us will be ready, the frequency will be set, so that the change in the planet can take place as it has been planned?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Okay, when the people are talking about the Earth Changes, when they talk in literal terms about the survivors, and those who are not going to survive, and the destruction and so forth and so on, in third, fourth, fifth level reality we are not talking about the destruction of the planet on third level physical terms, or the loss of 90 per cent of the population on the third level because they died, but because they are going to move to fourth level?

A: Whoa! You are getting “warm.”

Q: (T) Okay. So, when they talk about 90 per cent of the population not surviving, it is not that they are going to die, but that they are going to transform. We are going to go up a level. This is what the whole light thing is all about?

A: Or another possibility is that the physical cataclysms will occur only for those “left behind” on the remaining 3rd level density earth.

Q: (T) Okay, what you are saying, then, is that we are anchoring the frequency, so that when the wave comes, we move to fourth level density as many people as possible, in order to break the hold the fourth density STS6 have got on this planet, those who remain behind will not have enough energy left for the STS beings to bother with the planet any longer. There will be less of them so the planet will be able to refresh and they will be able to move on in their lessons without interference?

A: Close.

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Q: (L) Let me get this straight. When we move through this conduit, are the other…

A: You will be on the 4th level earth as opposed to 3rd level earth.

Q: (L) What I am trying to get here, once again, old practical Laura is trying to get a handle on practical terms here. Does this mean that a fourth density earth and a third density earth will coexist side by side…

A: Not side-by-side, totally different realms.

Q: (L) Do these realms interpenetrate one another but in different dimensions…

A: Close.

Q: (L) So, in other words, a being from say, sixth density, could look at this planet we call the Earth and see it spinning through space and see several dimensions of earth, and yet the point of space/time occupation is the same, in other words, simultaneous. (J) They can look down but we can’t look up.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, while all of this cataclysmic activity is happening on the third dimensional earth, we will be just on our fourth dimensional earth and this sort of thing won’t be there, and we won’t see the third dimensional people and they won’t see us because we will be in different densities which are not en rapport, so to speak?

A: You understand concept, now you must decide if it is factual.

Q: (L) Okay. An atom is in third density. What distinguishes it from an atom in fourth density?

A: Reality.

Q: (L) What distinguishes one realm from another?

A: Assumptions.

Q: (L) Okay, what you assume or expect is what you perceive about that atom depending upon which reality you are in, is that correct?

A: Close.

Q: (L) What determines your assumptions?

A: Experience.

Q: (L) My experience of atoms is that they congregate in such a way as to form solid matter…

A: Every thing that exists is merely a lesson.

Q: (L) Okay, so once we have learned certain lessons, as in experience of certain things, then our assumptions change?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, is this wave that is coming our direction going to give us an experience that is going to change our assumptions?

A: Catch 22: One half is that you have to change your assumptions in order to experience the wave in a positive way.

First of all we must take note of the fact that, as regards the external aspect and form of the world, our perception is extremely incorrect. We know that the world consists of solids, but we always see and touch only surfaces. We never see or touch a solid. A solid is already a concept, made up of a number of representations put together by means of reasoning and experience. For direct sensation only surfaces exist. Sensations of weight, mass, volume, which we mentally associate with a ‘solid’, are in reality connected for us with sensations of surfaces. We only know that this sensation of surfaces comes from a solid, but we never sense the solid itself. Maybe it is possible to call the composite sensation of surfaces, weight, mass, density, resistance and so on — ‘sensation of a solid’. But we are obliged mentally to bind all these sensations into one and to call this general sensation — a solid. We sense directly only surfaces, and then, separately, weight; we never sense the resistance of a solid, as such.

But we know that the world does not consist of surfaces, we know that we see the world incorrectly. We know that we never see the world as it really is, not only in the philosophical sense of this expression, but even in the most ordinary geometrical sense. We have never seen a cube, a sphere, etc.; we have always seen only surfaces. Realizing this, we mentally correct what we see. Behind the surfaces we think the solid. But we can never represent a solid to ourselves; we cannot represent a cube or a sphere not in perspective, but from all sides at once.

It is clear that the world does not exist in perspective; yet we are unable to see it in any other way. We see everything only in perspective, i.e. in perceiving it; we distort the world with our eye. And we know that we distort it. We know that it is not as we see it. And mentally we continually correct what the eye sees, substituting the real content for those symbols of things, which our sight shows us.

It is extremely important to explain to oneself an animal’s relationship to the measurement of solids.

The whole point is that animals see nothing but surfaces. (This we can say with the utmost conviction, since we ourselves see nothing but surfaces.) Seeing only surfaces, animals can represent to themselves only two dimensions. The third dimension, side by side with the first two, can only be thought, i.e. this dimension must be a concept. But animals have no concepts; the third dimension appears also as a representation. Consequently, at the moment of its appearance, the first two representations invariably merge into one. Animals see the difference between two dimensions, but cannot see the difference between three. This difference can only be known. And in order to know that, concepts are necessary.

For animals identical representations are bound to merge into one, just as for us two simultaneous, identical phenomena taking place at one point must merge into one. For animals it would be one phenomenon, just as for us all identical, simultaneous phenomena taking place at one point are one phenomenon.

Thus animals will see the world as a surface, and will measure this surface only in two directions.

How then to explain the fact that, living in a two-dimensional world, or seeing themselves in a two-dimensional world, animals orientate perfectly well in our three-dimensional world? How to explain that a bird flies up and down, straight ahead and sideways, in all three directions; that a horse jumps fences and ditches; that a dog and a cat seem to understand the properties of depth and height together with length and breadth?

In order to explain this we must return once more to the fundamental principles of animal psychology. It has been pointed out earlier that many properties of objects, which we remember as the general properties of species and varieties, have to be remembered by animals as the individual properties of objects. In sorting out this enormous store of individual properties preserved in memory animals are helped by the emotional quality connected for them with each representation and each memory of a sensation.

An animal knows, say, two roads as two entirely separate phenomena having nothing in common; one phenomenon, i.e. one road consists of a series of definite representations coloured by definite emotional qualities; the other phenomenon, i.e. the other road, consists of a series of other definite representations, coloured by other qualities. We say that both the one and the other are roads, one leading to one place, the other to another. For the animal the two roads have nothing in common. But it remembers all the sequence of emotional qualities connected with the first road and the second road and so remembers both roads with their turnings, ditches, fences and so on.

Thus the memory of the definite properties of objects, which they have seen, helps animals to orientate in the world of phenomena. But, as a rule, when faced with new phenomena, animals are much more helpless than man.

Animals see two dimensions. They constantly sense the third dimension but do not see it. They sense it as something transient, as we sense time.

The animal can see an angle of a three-dimensional object only if it moves past it, and in that case the object will seem to have turned — a new side has appeared, and the old side has receded or moved aside. An angle will be perceived as a turning, a movement of the object, i.e. as something transient, temporal, i.e. as a change in the state of the object. Remembering the angles met with before — which the animal has seen as the motion of bodies — it will regard them as gone, finished, vanished, belonging to the past.

Of course, the animal cannot reason thus, but it will act as though this was its reasoning.

If the animal could think of phenomena (i.e. angles and curved surfaces), which have not yet entered its life, it would no doubt represent them to itself only in time. In other words, the animal could not allow them any real existence at the present moment when they have not yet appeared. If it could express an opinion about them, it would say that these angles exist as a potentiality, that they will be, but that at present they are not.

For a horse, the corner of a house past which it runs every day, is a phenomenon, which recurs in certain circumstances, but which still takes place only in time; it is not a spatial and constant property of the house.

For the animal an angle must be a time-phenomenon, instead of being a space-phenomenon as it is for us.

Thus we see that the animal will perceive the properties of our third dimension as movements and will refer these properties to time, to the past or future, or to the present, i.e. to the moment of transition of the future into the past.

This is an extremely important point and contains the key to the understanding of our own perception of the world; consequently we must examine it in greater detail.

We have established that a man possesses sensations, representations and concepts; that higher animals possess sensations and representations, and lower animals only sensations. We deduced that an animal has no concepts mainly from the fact that it has no words, no speech. We have further established that, having no concepts, animals cannot comprehend the third dimension and only see the world as a surface. In other words they have no means, no instrument, for correcting their wrong sensations of the world. Then we found that, seeing the world as a surface, animals see on this surface a great many movements non-existent for us. That is, all those properties of bodies which we regard as the properties of their three-dimensionality, must appear as movements to them. Thus an angle and a spherical surface must appear to them as motion of the plane. Further, we came to the conclusion that everything that, for us, belongs to the domain of the third dimension as something constant, animals must regard as transient occurrences happening to objects — as time-phenomena.

Thus, in all its relations to the world an animal proves to be completely analogous to the unreal two-dimensional being, which we have supposed, lived on a plane. The whole of our world appears to an animal as a plane through which phenomena are passing, moving according to time or in time.

So we can say that we have established the following: that with a certain limitation of the mental apparatus which perceives the external world, for a subject possessing such an apparatus the whole aspect and all the properties of the world must change. And two subjects, living side by side but possessing different mental apparatuses, must live in different worlds — the properties of the extension of the world must be quite different for them. Moreover, we have seen conditions — not artificial and invented but actually existing in nature, i.e. the mental conditions of the life of animals — in which the world appears as a plane or even as a line.

In other words we have established that the three-dimensional extension of the world depends for us on the properties of our mental apparatus; or, that the world’s three-dimensionality is not its own property, but merely the property of our perception of the world.

To put it differently, the three-dimensionality of the world is the property of its reflection in our consciousness.

If all this is so, it is clear that we have really proved the dependence of space on space-sense. And, since we have proved the existence of a space-sense lower than ours, by this very fact we have proved the possibility of a space-sense higher than ours.

And we must admit that if a fourth unit of thinking becomes formed in us, as different from the concept as the concept is different from the representation, then, simultaneously with this, there will appear for us in the surrounding world a fourth characteristic which we may call geometrically a fourth direction or a fourth perpendicular, because this characteristic will contain properties of objects perpendicular to all properties known to us and not parallel to any of them. In other words, we shall see or feel ourselves not in a space of three, but of four dimensions, and the surrounding objects as well as our own bodies will reveal the general properties of the fourth dimension which we had not noticed before or which we had regarded as individual properties of objects (or their motion), just as animals regard the extension of objects in the third dimension as their motion.

Having seen or felt ourselves in the world of four dimensions, we shall find that the world of three dimensions has not and never had any real existence that it was a creation of our fantasy, a phantom, a spectre, a delusion, an optical illusion, anything you like, but not reality.

All this is far from being a ‘hypothesis’, a supposition; it is an exact fact, as much of a fact as the existence of infinity. For the sake of its own existence, positivism had somehow to do away with infinity or at least to call it a ‘hypothesis’, which may or may not be true. But infinity is not a hypothesis; it is a fact. And just such a fact is also the multi-dimensionality of space and all that it implies, i.e. the unreality of everything three-dimensional.

Q: (L) When you say “deep conjunction of fibrous linkage,” does this mean that we are conjoining with a linkage to a fourth density body that is growing, developing?

A: Slowly, but surely. We have told you before that the upcoming “changes” relate to the spiritual and awareness factors rather than the much publicized physical. Symbolism is always a necessary tool in teaching. But, the trick is to read the hidden lessons represented by the symbology, not to get hung up on the literal meanings of the symbols!

Q: (L) You say that the symbology has to do with hidden meanings. The symbology that you used was “image” and “deep fibrous linkage” of DNA. Now, is that a physical, symbolic image?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is your definition of “image?” We have many.

A: Learning is fun, Laura, as you have repeatedly found!

Q: (L) Well, I am so hot now that I really need to know about this! And, how come I am always the one who gets assigned the job of figuring everything out?

A: Because you have asked for the “power” to figure out the most important issues in all of reality. And, we have been assisting you in your empowerment.

Q: (L) Image. DNA linkage. (V) “Power” was in quotes.

A: Leave that alone for now, you will know soon enough.

Q: (V) Is this fourth density body something that already exists so that we could communicate with it?

A: Habeas Corpus?

Q: (V) Well, they just said… (L) Well, what they must mean is that you are it — you are transforming little by little and all of the unpleasant little side-effects are just part of it.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is third density awareness the only density with perception of time?

A: No.

Q: (L) Well, what others?

A: 4,5,6,7.

Q: (L) But I thought that time perception was an illusion?

A: YOUR perception of it is an illusion. Remember the example of the dogs and cats riding in a car?

Q: (L) Yes. Ouspensky and the horse. So, time, as an essential thing, does exist?

A: But not as you know it. When we refer to “timelessness,” we are speaking from the standpoint of your familiarity only.

Q: (L) Does time then exist, and does space have a limit?

A: You are getting confused because your inborn linear perception is clouding the image your efforts are trying to produce.


Q: (T) Several sessions back when we were discussing “Perpendicular Realities” you were talking about something that happened to me and that I had to look back over my life and analyze my relationships with other people from a certain point up until now and you said that this was a perpendicular reality. What is the definition of a perpendicular reality?

A: The perpendicular reality primarily, though not exclusively, refers to one’s life path and how one’s life path fits together in the cycle or in a wheel when connected with those of a similar life path. If you can picture an inlaid wheel formed by a circle within a circle, and adjoining partitions in a perfect balance, that would be the best representation of perpendicular reality for it does not completely involve one individual’s experience, but rather a group of individuals’ experience for the progression of a greater purpose, if you understand what we mean. This is what we mean when we say: “perpendicular reality.” Picture again, a circle within a circle adjoined by equally spaced partitions in a perfect cycle. That is perpendicular reality.

Q: (T) You had us draw this symbol and put seven spokes or partitions between the two circles.

A: Correct.

Q: (T) Is seven the optimal number?

A: Seven is always the optimal number. There are seven levels of density. This reflects through all phases of reality.


Q: (Aud.) In all the varying transitions between first and sixth density, does any soul ever perish, or become extinguished?

A: No.
Q: (T) We asked about this at several points. Apparently all souls began at the same point in “time,” and all will be returned to seventh density at the same time. No new souls are being created, and no souls are ever destroyed, they merely change from state to state according to their “lesson profile,” or what they have learned or need to learn and experience. (L) Yeah. That’s the good news; here’s the bad news: those that don’t graduate to fourth density on this pass of the wave get to do third density all over again, in its entire cycle. [Laughter]

Q: (Aud.) Have you ever asked about why there is so much suffering here on Earth?

A: (L) Yes, and it’s not Eve’s fault!

Q: (Aud.) Well, I don’t know about others, but if there is a utopia out there somewhere, I’d rather be there and never come back here again! And what you are telling me is that, even though we go back to sixth density, we have to come back again.

A: (L) No, that’s fifth density — contemplation level. You make the decisions there, and if you are here, it’s because you chose to be here. But, the only way to get out of the cycle of the third density Service to Self level, the consumption level where you must feed on others — and that is really the bottom line there — you must transcend that issue, the physicality. You become an energy being who only gives conjoined with other beings that also only give, and in such symbiosis, no one ever lacks.

But, yes, there is a very definite reason for the suffering at this level and T touched on it a while ago — the dominance of the Reptilian beings that fed off of us for the past 300,000 years.

They dumbed us down, implanted control impulses in us such as jealousy, greed, avarice and so forth, so that we would constantly generate negative energy while they are sitting there in fourth density with a straw just slurping it up! “Yummy!”

So, when you feel yourself going into negative states, if you want to transcend it, all you have to really do is understand that it is not yours. You don’t “own it.” Yes, it is part of the physicality of this density, but it is a physicality that has been genetically tampered with so that such emotions will dominate. You can not act them out, you can refuse to be controlled by such states, you can choose to be other, even if it requires something of an inner struggle between the choice of the soul and the wants of the flesh which are pretty clever at being rationalized by the brain so that we don’t see what is really going on very clearly at all.

Q: (Aud.) So, we actually chose to accept this state of being at some point, and now we can choose otherwise?

A: (L) That’s exactly right. Each moment, we have the choice of accepting the Lizzie program, or to follow a different line of choices. The mass of humanity, the group — and we have been told that the legend of Lucifer is the story of this choice and refers to the human race — made this choice. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had enough. I think I changed my mind! [Laughter]


Q: (L) On many occasions you have said that the ideal thing is to have perfect balance of physicality and ethereality. This has been said on a number of occasions. Now, I don’t understand how it can be that gratification of a physical body can be the mechanics by which one is entrapped? Is it not gratifying to look at something beautiful? Is it wrong, sinful, or a form of a fall, to look at beauty, to hear something beautiful such as music, or to touch something that is sensually delightful such as a piece of silk or the skin of a loved one? These various things that the human being derives pleasure from very often elevate them to a spiritual state.

A: Possession is the key. In STS, you possess. If you move through the beautiful flowers, the silk, the skin of another, but do not seek to possess…

Q: (L) It seems to me that it is possible to experience all of these things, including sex, without the need or desire to possess, but only to give. In which case, I still don’t understand how it can be a mechanism for a “fall.”

A: If it is desired, then the mechanism is not to give. Do you eat a piece of chocolate cake because it is good to give to the stomach? In STS, which is your realm do not forget, one gives because of the pleasant sensation which results.

STS means Service To Self. STO = Service To Others.

Note to self: Re-read (finish reading) Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With A Thousand Faces soon.

Q: (L) When you say “deep conjunction of fibrous linkage,” does this mean that we areconjoining with a linkage to a fourth density body that is growing, developing?

A: Slowly, but surely. Now, get ready for a message: We have told you before that the upcoming “changes” relate to the spiritual and awareness factors rather than the much publicized physical. Symbolism is always a necessary tool in teaching. But, the trick is to read the hidden lessons represented by the symbology, not to get hung up on the literal meanings of the symbols!

Q: (L) You say that the symbology has to do with hidden meanings. The symbology that you used was “image” and “deep fibrous linkage” of DNA. Now, is that a physical, symbolic image?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is your definition of “image?” We have many.

A: Learning is fun, Laura, as you have repeatedly found!

Q: (L) Well, I am so hot now that I really want to know! And, how come I am always the one who gets assigned the job of figuring everything out?

A: Because you have asked for the “power” to figure out the most important issues in all of reality. And, we have been assisting you in your empowerment.

The finger points the way but is not the way.

Q: (L) You have said that when the Wave arrives that you will merge with us. Is this the same thing that you are talking about when you say that you are us in the future?

A: No.

Q: (L) So, we are talking about two separate events or subjects, or two separate points in space/time, is that correct?

A: No. You are again slipping into trying to apply third density logic to higher levels of density reality.

Q: (L) So, we are not talking about the same event…

A: What is “future,” anyway?

Q: (L) The future is simultaneous events, just different locales in space/time, just a different focus of consciousness, is that correct?

A: Yea, so if that is true, why try to apply linear thinking here, you see, we are merging with you right now!

Q: (L) What quality in us, what thing, enabled us to make contact. Because, obviously a lot of people try and get garbage.

A: You asked.

Q: (L) A lot of people ask!

A: No they don’t, they command.

Q: (L) Well, a lot of people do ask or beg or plead, but they get all discombobulated with the answers.

A: No, they command. Think about it. You did not beg or plead… that is commanding.

Source: Cassiopaea.